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ALF71BE · Aug 25, 2008, 01:09 AM // 01:09

I'm wondering, what are these all about? I see constantly in Services section, KC - Lutgardis survivor run, and I'd like to know what it is about before buying it or even starting my own.

My best guess is that you get ran all the way just said above.

But.

What happens with the faction you gotta have to be allowed to follow the storyline (quest Befrineding the Luxons)? What about side quests? The runner has also to do "The Eternal Grove"?

Thanks for your responses/help.

ShadowsRequiem · Aug 25, 2008, 01:28 AM // 01:28

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Originally Posted by ALF71BE

I'm wondering, what are these all about? I see constantly in Services section, KC - Lutgardis survivor run, and I'd like to know what it is about before buying it or even starting my own.

My best guess is that you get ran all the way just said above.

But.

What happens with the faction you gotta have to be allowed to follow the storyline (quest Befrineding the Luxons)? What about side quests? The runner has also to do "The Eternal Grove"?

Thanks for your responses/help.

This is how you cheat to get the survivor title. Someone runs you to Lutgardis and you repeat the kurz faction farm quest over and over. You dont need to do eternal or the other quests.

dilan155 · Aug 25, 2008, 02:20 AM // 02:20

the whole point of those runs is to run you so that you will be able to either HFFF yourself or to get a runner to do it for you. These quests give a fairly hefty amount of experience( for the time it takes to finish) thus allowing you to get the survivor title easier

Pleikki · Aug 25, 2008, 04:04 AM // 04:04

Yeah so the point for survivor runs, you play yourself in KC, as a survivor you aim for Legendary survivor, you pay someone ~20k and he finished missions & primary quests for you until you're at Lutgardis, there you can Hfff And get Legendary Survivor without any risks real easy & earn +100k while you do it..

LicensedLuny · Aug 25, 2008, 06:51 AM // 06:51

Isn't the OP's question asking how the run deals with the 10k faction quest? Wouldn't a runee still be required to gather Kurzick faction to complete Befriending the Kurzicks?

As for what would happen to your Luxon faction, nothing. You can have both Kurzick and Luxon faction at the same time. It's only when you hand in faction for one side (things like raising Alliance rep, jade/amber, passage scrolls, etc.) that you lose faction for the other side. Completing quests like the two "Befriending the *" quests won't remove any faction you have for the other side.

EDIT - and yeah, if I were considering buying such a run, I'd want to discuss that 10k faction quest before paying. I don't see how they could run that for you. Seems to me like you'd have to gather the Kurzick faction for yourself. But Kurzick faction is linked to your whole account, not each character. So you could do things on your other, non-Survivor characters to earn faction.

EDIT 2 - Regarding the helpful posts below, yep, I was mistaken

It's the 15k armor town I was thinking of that would require the 10k faction quest. I get the HFFF town confused with the 15k armor town. For some reason, they've always seemed similar to me. Sorry for the confusion.

KZaske · Aug 25, 2008, 07:18 AM // 07:18

It seems to me that if the runner is running you to the point where you can HFFF (such as Lutgardis) he would have to complete one of the befrending quest, either Lux or Kurz, as part of the service.

MisterB · Aug 25, 2008, 07:30 AM // 07:30

Befriending the Kurzicks is not required to get to Lutgardis Conservatory. All you have to do is complete all the primary quests and missions between KC and HzH, and then run from HzH through the Ferndale explorable area to Lutgardis.

Hollygen · Aug 25, 2008, 01:53 PM // 13:53

Since The quest used for HFFF at Ludgardis is one of the major sources of faction specifically for the Befriending quest, it makes sense it would be early enough in the map that you don't need to have completed Befriending to get there

Ariena Najea · Aug 25, 2008, 02:40 PM // 14:40

I have done this run over a dozen times now for various Guru members, so here's a list of what exactly goes into it:

Mission Runs (typically from Vizunah Square through Sunjiang District)
Quest Runs (typically from Welcome to Cantha/Master's Burden to Journey to HzH)
Zone Runs (House Zu Heltzer to Lutgardis)

Throughout nearly all the missions, the survivor can be afk. In some missions, automatic cutscene teleports can place the survivor in significant danger, such as in front of the Kraken in Boreas Seabed. Many of the quests require the survivor (or the runner if he can obtain the quests) to follow along to talk to NPCs and get into some of the locked outposts. Befriending the Kurzicks is not needed, because the Eternal Grove is not needed to get to Lutgardis,.

romeus petrus · Aug 25, 2008, 02:56 PM // 14:56

Hey here's a crazy idea, get to lvl 10 on your own. Run yourself to Gunners Hold. Do the Boxing quest over and over. And there ya go Survivor in a few hours and you saved yourself a 100k.

dilan155 · Aug 25, 2008, 04:23 PM // 16:23

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Originally Posted by romeus petrus

Hey here's a crazy idea, get to lvl 10 on your own. Run yourself to Gunners Hold. Do the Boxing quest over and over. And there ya go Survivor in a few hours and you saved yourself a 100k.

it may be the most profitable, but we all know how lazy players can get. Besides you cant afk with this.

ALF71BE · Aug 25, 2008, 08:33 PM // 20:33

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Hey here's a crazy idea, get to lvl 10 on your own. Run yourself to Gunners Hold. Do the Boxing quest over and over. And there ya go Survivor in a few hours and you saved yourself a 100k.

Besides not being able to mostly AFK, that is even more boring than a survivor run, and in the latter you get to a place to HFFF, where you get Kurzick faction and eventually advance in three titles. Also you can get back the 80k or so by doing this, so it's not much of a problem.

And I don't have EotN, so, well.

My main doubt was about the quest Befriending the Kurzicks, but I just realized it's in Lutgardis and not Vasburg, always get those two wrong. Also I wanted to know if the runner had to get the title by HFFF'ing in the end of the journey, which would mean like 70 hour of job... Now I see it's not.

Thanks the answers, you can do now whatever you feel like with this.

aka Easy · Aug 25, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37

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Originally Posted by romeus petrus

Hey here's a crazy idea, get to lvl 10 on your own. Run yourself to Gunners Hold. Do the Boxing quest over and over. And there ya go Survivor in a few hours and you saved yourself a 100k.

Isn't there also the danger of disconnect deaths with boxing? With HFFF, there's no risk to your title at all. (unless you're running people and some jerk wants to aggro a mob and pull them to you when you disconnect)

Aug 25, 2008, 01:09 AM // 01:09	#1
ALF71BE Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: In your fridge, stealing your pickles. for mah subway Profession: R/	Survivors runs? I'm wondering, what are these all about? I see constantly in Services section, KC - Lutgardis survivor run, and I'd like to know what it is about before buying it or even starting my own. My best guess is that you get ran all the way just said above. But. What happens with the faction you gotta have to be allowed to follow the storyline (quest Befrineding the Luxons)? What about side quests? The runner has also to do "The Eternal Grove"? Thanks for your responses/help.

Aug 25, 2008, 06:51 AM // 06:51	#5
LicensedLuny Badly Influenced Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread) Guild: Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish	Isn't the OP's question asking how the run deals with the 10k faction quest? Wouldn't a runee still be required to gather Kurzick faction to complete Befriending the Kurzicks? As for what would happen to your Luxon faction, nothing. You can have both Kurzick and Luxon faction at the same time. It's only when you hand in faction for one side (things like raising Alliance rep, jade/amber, passage scrolls, etc.) that you lose faction for the other side. Completing quests like the two "Befriending the " quests won't remove any faction you have for the other side. EDIT - and yeah, if I were considering buying such a run, I'd want to discuss that 10k faction quest before paying. I don't see how they could run that for you. Seems to me like you'd have to gather the Kurzick faction for yourself. But Kurzick faction is linked to your whole account, not each character. So you could do things on your other, non-Survivor characters to earn faction. EDIT 2 - Regarding the helpful posts below, yep, I was mistaken It's the 15k armor town I was thinking of that would require the 10k faction quest. I get the HFFF town confused with the 15k armor town. For some reason, they've always seemed similar to me. Sorry for the confusion. Last edited by LicensedLuny; Aug 25, 2008 at 06:39 PM // 18:39..*

Aug 25, 2008, 02:20 AM // 02:20	#3
dilan155 Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2007 Location: living room Profession: N/	the whole point of those runs is to run you so that you will be able to either HFFF yourself or to get a runner to do it for you. These quests give a fairly hefty amount of experience( for the time it takes to finish) thus allowing you to get the survivor title easier

Aug 25, 2008, 04:04 AM // 04:04	#4
Pleikki WTB q8 15^50 Weapons! Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: ???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]	Yeah so the point for survivor runs, you play yourself in KC, as a survivor you aim for Legendary survivor, you pay someone ~20k and he finished missions & primary quests for you until you're at Lutgardis, there you can Hfff And get Legendary Survivor without any risks real easy & earn +100k while you do it..

Aug 25, 2008, 07:18 AM // 07:18	#6
KZaske Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boise Idaho Guild: Druids Of Old (DOO) Profession: R/Mo	It seems to me that if the runner is running you to the point where you can HFFF (such as Lutgardis) he would have to complete one of the befrending quest, either Lux or Kurz, as part of the service.

Aug 25, 2008, 07:30 AM // 07:30	#7
MisterB Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy Guild: [ban] Profession: W/	Befriending the Kurzicks is not required to get to Lutgardis Conservatory. All you have to do is complete all the primary quests and missions between KC and HzH, and then run from HzH through the Ferndale explorable area to Lutgardis.

Aug 25, 2008, 01:53 PM // 13:53	#8
Hollygen Core Guru Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Guild: Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa] Profession: R/	Since The quest used for HFFF at Ludgardis is one of the major sources of faction specifically for the Befriending quest, it makes sense it would be early enough in the map that you don't need to have completed Befriending to get there

Aug 25, 2008, 02:40 PM // 14:40	#9
Ariena Najea Silence and Motion Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buffalo NY Guild: New Horizon [NH]	I have done this run over a dozen times now for various Guru members, so here's a list of what exactly goes into it: Mission Runs (typically from Vizunah Square through Sunjiang District) Quest Runs (typically from Welcome to Cantha/Master's Burden to Journey to HzH) Zone Runs (House Zu Heltzer to Lutgardis) Throughout nearly all the missions, the survivor can be afk. In some missions, automatic cutscene teleports can place the survivor in significant danger, such as in front of the Kraken in Boreas Seabed. Many of the quests require the survivor (or the runner if he can obtain the quests) to follow along to talk to NPCs and get into some of the locked outposts. Befriending the Kurzicks is not needed, because the Eternal Grove is not needed to get to Lutgardis,.

Aug 25, 2008, 02:56 PM // 14:56	#10
romeus petrus Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Urgoz Warren Guild: Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com	Hey here's a crazy idea, get to lvl 10 on your own. Run yourself to Gunners Hold. Do the Boxing quest over and over. And there ya go Survivor in a few hours and you saved yourself a 100k.